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Darkobra · Mar 20, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Ursan Will Avenge You! I've always hated it when people do that.

creelie · Mar 20, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

On a related note, did the term "Zergway" originate in GW or did it somehow migrate over here from Starcraft? And what was it used to describe here in GW?

angmar_nite · Mar 20, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19

No. Zerg was Zerg rush. With the terms micro skillz, and zergling intermixed.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 20, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

The origin of Zerg is Starcraft, and is not a GW term, but I've only seen "zergway" used in guildwars. Presumably someone felt the tactic was somehow similar to a zerg rush.

Antheus · Mar 20, 2008, 03:59 AM // 03:59

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Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness

It's because most of the GW community are cliche, cookie cutting, mindless sheep.

Yea, just the clicheway.

Jam Jar · Mar 20, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

Know it, learn it, love it. It's going to stay for a while.

I personally don't know how -way gets from IWAY to -way. It's kind of far fetched. An abrieviation turns into a team build name...?

My thinking is that the first -way was that someone created a great -way name for their own build and it started from there.

JR · Mar 20, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Jam Jar

I personally don't know how -way gets from IWAY to -way. It's kind of far fetched. An abrieviation turns into a team build name...?

My thinking is that the first -way was that someone created a great -way name for their own build and it started from there.

You are wrong. It started with IWAY.

Builds need simple and easily recognisable names for pug HA play. You say you are forming IWAY and most people know the bars pretty well. You say that you are forming a melee heavy warrior/ranger pressure build with minimal healing support and people say... huh?

"I Will Avenge You!" was supposedly the core skill of the build, though frankly it could still function quite well with out it. It did however become the trademark skill and the acronym (faster to type and recognisable) IWAY was how people referred to it.

A lot of people who picked up the build later on didn't immediately understand why it was called IWAY. They assumed it literally meant 'something way' - a way of playing. People also like to conform and stick with trends to help legitimise their own creations, thus afterwards came ViMway, flareway, sway, thumpway... and so on.

IWAY was the first massively accessible pug build, and many consider it the start of the devolution of HA (or Tombs at the time). Before that there were other common pug builds (Minion Factory, Air Spike, Smite...) but none that were quite as mindless and relied as little player skill... IWAY relied on the lack of skill in your opposition rather than any amount of skill in your pug, which is why it worked so well as a grinding machine. You didn't have to be picky with who you invited to your group, everyone knew the bars well enough, and it wasn't exactly complicated to run (c+space). Fast games, fast wins or fast losses, fast fame.

[edit: Zerg rushing in StarCraft refers to attacking someone with a huge amount of weak offensive units early in the game while they are still building up their resources. I can see how this might apply losely to some glass cannon style offensive builds in Guild Wars.]

Mar 20, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#21
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	Ursan Will Avenge You! I've always hated it when people do that.

Mar 20, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15	#22
creelie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alberta Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: Mo/	On a related note, did the term "Zergway" originate in GW or did it somehow migrate over here from Starcraft? And what was it used to describe here in GW?

Mar 20, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19	#23
angmar_nite Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM] Profession: E/	No. Zerg was Zerg rush. With the terms micro skillz, and zergling intermixed.

Mar 20, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53	#24
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	The origin of Zerg is Starcraft, and is not a GW term, but I've only seen "zergway" used in guildwars. Presumably someone felt the tactic was somehow similar to a zerg rush.

Mar 20, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47	#26
Jam Jar Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: [Disc] Profession: W/	Know it, learn it, love it. It's going to stay for a while. I personally don't know how -way gets from IWAY to -way. It's kind of far fetched. An abrieviation turns into a team build name...? My thinking is that the first -way was that someone created a great -way name for their own build and it started from there.